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Ty Anderson
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jun 21 @ 4:44 PM ET
Ty Anderson: Are Lightning getting priced out of Stamkos hunt?
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:47 PM ET
Ty you do know buffalo has much higher taxes then in Florida right ?
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:54 PM ET
Ty you do know buffalo has much higher taxes then in Florida right ?
- todd1a


I don't think that is the issue. They are even higher in Toronto. I believe Stamkos is feeling pressure from the players association to get the highest contract possible so contracts for all players will go up.
https://www.google.com/ur...g2=6xGqruPpdJE1VsjA2VDm0Q
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:54 PM ET
Ty you do know buffalo has much higher taxes then in Florida right ?
- todd1a

Cheaper cost of living makes up for it.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:56 PM ET
Cheaper cost of living makes up for it.
- cabin

I would never pay Stamkos 12 per year the team that does will regret it lol
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
I don't think that is the issue. They are even higher in Toronto. I believe Stamkos is feeling pressure from the players association to get the highest contract possible so contracts for all players will go up.
https://www.google.com/ur...g2=6xGqruPpdJE1VsjA2VDm0Q

- doppelthat

Stamkos denied that in the exit interview but I think he lied
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jun 21 @ 4:59 PM ET
Stammer would make more in endorsements than salary, with the Leafs.
Ty Anderson
Editor
Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 21 @ 5:03 PM ET
Ty you do know buffalo has much higher taxes then in Florida right ?
- todd1a


Yeah, I admit that's a whole different thing I'm not looking at putting into stories right now because I have a headache doing regular bills and don't want to put misinformation out there.

tomburton99
New York Rangers
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Jun 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
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Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
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Jun 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
Stammer would make more in endorsements than salary, with the Leafs.
- Bullot


You know, that's how I feel about a lot of these situations. Taxes might be higher in different states and stuff, but there's so many other ways for superstars to make money, and they're straight-up foolish if they don't do it in my opinion.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
Stammer would make more in endorsements than salary, with the Leafs.
- Bullot


bingo.
no doubt in my mind Stamkos will join the Leafs - makes sense from a financial, personal and hockey point of view.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
You know, that's how I feel about a lot of these situations. Taxes might be higher in different states and stuff, but there's so many other ways for superstars to make money, and they're straight-up foolish if they don't do it in my opinion.
- tyanderson

Assuming he can play hockey for 8 years without blood clots again how much endorsements do you get if after 3 years you can never play hockey again ?
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
You know, that's how I feel about a lot of these situations. Taxes might be higher in different states and stuff, but there's so many other ways for superstars to make money, and they're straight-up foolish if they don't do it in my opinion.
- tyanderson


You can also factor in where the Canadian dollar is and that players are paid in USD.

Today - For reference, $1M USD = $1.282M CAD
MountAlbert
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mount Albert, ON
Joined: 01.08.2013

Jun 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
No doubt it's cheaper. We all don't live in a Cabin !!
Ty Anderson
Editor
Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 21 @ 5:17 PM ET
Assuming he can play hockey for 8 years without blood clots again how much endorsements do you get if after 3 years you can never play hockey again ?
- todd1a


Well, if it came to that point, nabbing the most money would be even more important, as you'd be on LTIR through the life of that contract.
KillerBert44
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
12M? Whoa. That is literally 16% of your entire cap space...in one player.

Also - want to make sure I point out one thing. In your article you pointed out that Detroit would only be in on Stamkos if they move Pavel's contract - which isn't true. The Wings could still make an offer to Stamkos in the 10M AAV mark - even if they don't move Pavel's contract. Tough - but possible.
Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
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Jun 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
12M? Whoa. That is literally 16% of your entire cap space...in one player.

Also - want to make sure I point out one thing. In your article you pointed out that Detroit would only be in on Stamkos if they move Pavel's contract - which isn't true. The Wings could still make an offer to Stamkos in the 10M AAV mark - even if they don't move Pavel's contract. Tough - but possible.

- KillerBert44


Yeah, I hear 'ya, but from what's been said/written/heard, it seems like it's somewhat dependent on moving that contract, which will be possible for a few teams, you'd think, right?
hawk35
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jun 21 @ 5:28 PM ET
8.5 won't get it done.

If Lightning haven't signed him to this point...I think he is definately moving on.

Best guess...the Leafs for 10.5 or 11 per....on a 8 year deal.

But, thinking at least 4-5 teams will dangle 10million at him....8.5 is an insult really....
KillerBert44
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.06.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
Yeah, I am feeling confident that Holland will be able to move it. I get the impression he is playing coy with some of his comments about 'not being optimistic' about moving it just to get other GMs to start thinking...

Although, I did hear that the asking price might be Svechnikov or Athanasiou...which are both no-nos for now.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:37 PM ET
8.5 won't get it done.

If Lightning haven't signed him to this point...I think he is definately moving on.

Best guess...the Leafs for 10.5 or 11 per....on a 8 year deal.

But, thinking at least 4-5 teams will dangle 10million at him....8.5 is an insult really....

- hawk35

how will the leafs sign him for 8 years do you know the cba rules ?
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:39 PM ET
8.5 won't get it done.

If Lightning haven't signed him to this point...I think he is definately moving on.

Best guess...the Leafs for 10.5 or 11 per....on a 8 year deal.

But, thinking at least 4-5 teams will dangle 10million at him....8.5 is an insult really....

- hawk35

where did 8.5 come from when nothing has leaked from yzerman or the stamkos camp? so I find that offer to be untrue.
Ty Anderson
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Location: @_TyAnderson, MA
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Jun 21 @ 5:43 PM ET
where did 8.5 come from when nothing has leaked from yzerman or the stamkos camp? so I find that offer to be untrue.
- todd1a


I think January or February. Around there.
KINGS67
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Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:43 PM ET
how will the leafs sign him for 8 years do you know the cba rules ?
- todd1a

By trading his rights. I doubt TB lets him go for free
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 21 @ 5:49 PM ET
Greatest unrestricted free agent of all time? Have you never heard of Wayne Gretzky?
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jun 21 @ 5:50 PM ET
But $8.5M was never going to get it done.

Yzerman has mismanaged this resigning.

If he had offered over $9M last June, I doubt the team would be in this position. I hope Yzerman has learned that he needs to offer Hedman the same money as Subban.
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